Pursuing Success
Laura and Jordan discuss the pursuit of success as identified by others and how it can lead to a lack of fulfillment. They touch on middle-age and quarter-life crises, as well as the fear of letting go of leadership roles. Jordan's career as a podcaster is highlighted as an example of making specific decisions to pursue interests.In this clip
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